Comments on: Klingons cut from Star Trek XI! jatlhwI’pu’ !!

By: Cliven

Cliven — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:35:50 +0000

Actually the ships in the Kobayshi Maru test were referred to them as warbirds, which was canonically very wrong. Prior to “The Enterprise Incident”, the Feds had no knowledge of Klingon/Romulan technological exchange. The movies, and subsequent fan paradigms, have forgotten that “the “bird of prey” image is 100% Romulan, NOT Klingon, and that Klingon ships were simply called “battle cruisers” in TOS. ST III introduced the “Klingon” BoP because the baddies were originally supposed to be Romulan, but they kept the ship when the villains were switched to Klingons. That the ship looked Klingon was easily explained by the Rom adopting Klingon designs (which they did in ToS since their own ships were technically inferior) but tossing a cloak on it.

By: TrekNut

TrekNut — Mon, 11 May 2009 17:22:37 +0000

I just got back from seeing the movie and i’m a long time Trekkie fan, and i was very very pleased in what i saw , fantastic story . And i’m sure Kligons will be in the next movie, it’s very likely. At least we got to see Birds of Prey for a short while.

By: Craig

Craig — Thu, 07 May 2009 20:20:44 +0000

So how many of the TOS episodes actually had Klingons? Not more than 10 or so. It seems the movies have been too heavy with Klingons. I have no problems with lack of Klingons for a change.

By: Tom

Tom — Wed, 06 May 2009 01:38:38 +0000

Remember that this movie Must, in order to preserve the time line, pay homage to the origional style of Klingon, or, not have any at all. Anyone that watched and followed the rather weak to start Enterprise series would know the origion of the lack of the Klingon brow ridges during Kirks era.

That just couldn’t be dismissed for this movie, now could it?

By: Retinax 5

Retinax 5 — Fri, 01 May 2009 16:54:24 +0000

I saw the movie last night at the INTEL screener. The movie does have Klingon’s ah la ST:TWOK, Three newer Klingon D-7 type battlecruisers in Kirk’s 3rd Kobayashi Maru test where he “cheats.”

Other than that… no Klingons.

By: J.L.Lee

J.L.Lee — Fri, 01 May 2009 10:41:26 +0000

I’ll bet Gillette is pissed! This move killed their marketing campaign for Klingon deodorant spray.

By: J.L.Lee

J.L.Lee — Fri, 01 May 2009 10:29:59 +0000

Sounds like a complaint the UN may be competent enough to handle. After all aren’t Klingons responsible for Darfur and piracy off Somalia?

By: Hawkster

Hawkster — Fri, 01 May 2009 09:18:40 +0000

oh puh-leese! This is like saying that cutting the Cthulu-esque monster from the end of Watchmen was the reason people hated the movie.

Do you want the move to have broad appeal, or just be made for hyper-sensitive purists? Get over it!

By: randomTrekkie

randomTrekkie — Fri, 01 May 2009 01:31:17 +0000

puhLEASE!!! “by cutting out the Klingon, this new film is cutting out the Warrior heart of the Star Trek Universe”??? Give me an f’ing break!! TOS is what we’re talking, and it wasn’t <>!!! Romulans were a very big enemy as well!! I mean, look at how many episodes dealt with the Romulan Neutral Zone, etc!!

By: naHQun

naHQun — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:54:58 +0000

#1 Universal? Do you mean Paramount?

#2 I’m sure they would have used the “non-dorky” Klingons.

#3 Actually, all 10 movies to date do in fact have Klingons.

TMP starts with three Klingon ships encountering V’Ger (sp?), introduces the foreheads, and spoken Klingon.

TWOK starts with a simulated battle involving the Klingon neutal zone, and has Khan quote a Klingon proverb.

TSFS has Klingons as the main bad guys, introduces the Bird-of-Prey, and is the film Marc Okrand invented tlhIngan Hol for.

TVH The main ship is a Bird-of-Prey. And the Klingon diplomat guy ranting about Kirk.

TFF A whole lot of Klingon scenes and spoken Klingon.

TUC It’s a Klingon movie. It’s all about the Klingons. We even have Shakspeare in Klingon. Uhura even speaks Klingon. Pink blood!

G Duras sisters. and their crew and ship. Worf.

FC Worf. He gets some good lines in.

I Worf. Klingon puberty.

N Worf.

So it gets a little weak going into the TNG movies, but the TOS movies (which the new movie is) were heavily Klingon. Only TWO of which did NOT have spoken Klingon.

By: Roger

Roger — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:34:27 +0000

So why are you here and why bother to comment?

By: Roger

Roger — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:33:12 +0000

I’m just a bit more worried about the fact that there do appear to be Romulans in this movie which no one even saw until balance of terror. And wasn’t the Enterprise built in space?

By: swight

swight — Fri, 01 May 2009 00:01:03 +0000

I saw another interview with JJ that said the prison scene was cut because it was the one scene that consistently confused test audiences.

By: Mooman

Mooman — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 22:58:18 +0000

I would have preferred a movie about a new ship and crew. This movie isn’t really that exciting for me. I want to hear stories from other ships in the Federation from Kirk’s era.

By: BigFrank

BigFrank — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:43:30 +0000

Ha ha ha, Star Trek nerds throwing toys out of the pram. Start Trek films are crap anyway, the whole thing is dated and well past it’s sell by date… on emore to miss

By: mark

mark — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:41:12 +0000

it will probably have the regular Klingon greet.
i am still very skeptical about this star trek, i won’t go once it’s out i’ll probably wait a week, till one of my most geeky star trek fan friend goes there in his suit.

By: Gorn Fan

Gorn Fan — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:19:28 +0000

I don’t mind the lack of Klingons, but a Gorn had better make an appearance!

By: Ken Jones

Ken Jones — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:03:20 +0000

Lack of spoken Klingon has no real effect on the movie itself, or my enjoyment of the film.

I certainly didn’t throw a tantrum whenever there was a Next Generation episode that didn’t involve Geordi opening up Data’s shell to fiddle with his internal components.

The idea that a lack of spoken Klingon in the new film cuts the heart out is a little silly.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:45:03 +0000

As someone who has watched every movie and every episode of Star Trek there is I don’t really see what the big deal is. Not every movie or episode of Star Trek has Klingons in it I don’t see why this movie needs to. I think people are more upset by the fact that they may have been cut from the movie then the fact that they are not in the movie.

As long as it is actually a *good* movie I’m excited. Lately ST has been pretty weak both on TV and film. I just hope I’m not disappointed yet again.

By: Doug

Doug — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:38:49 +0000

the early Klingons were dorky looking anyways.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:53:44 +0000

Well, if the lack of Klingons for just the first movie brings in a large, new fanbase, I am open to the idea. This would show Universal that there is money if they continue to make more star trek movies.