Star Wars Legacy of the Force Invincible OUT TODAY!! May 13, 2008
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Finally it’s here!! The final book in the Star Wars Legacy of the Force series is out!
We’ve had some really healthy discussion about this for months on this site and there are heated opinions all around.
For now though I’m personally going to savor every page and take some time to read this final episode in this series.
For better or for worse Legacy of the Force has been a VERY eventful series, splitting the Galaxy, families and fans alike.
Now I know what the Mara Jade fans felt with here death…….Why build the character up for a series just to let him…..I really…..and the next series?……please, the origins of the Falcon? So very disappointing….Gee thanks for the great series….I hope your pockets are lined nice and fat. Thanks for duping the fans, and thanks for ruining a great series…..why go through with a contest to name the next Sith Lord just too……WOW. Not amazing at all. You all ( Del Ray or whoever approved this Kriffing out come ) had a bunch of new fans just to sell and now..well….. WOW….
The only think good to come from this series was Karen Traviss and the way she wrote Lord Caedus and also the development of the Mando’s…I cna’t see what is soooo great about Denning..I just don’t see it. The series has been ruined! Completly and utterly. What the …… were these people in charge thinking?? WHAT! Shottie, unimanginative fools the lot! Excluding Traviss…somewhat….
This last book proved without a doubt that the books are NOT for the fans, that in fact, there for the puplishers to make dough. Caedus in the begining of this book was well writen..he’s seemed to not to be on the rise to make the same mistakes as other sith before him….and new future for the Sith could have been born through Caedus as he himself could have lead the charge for change in the future. He had a more paitient control and used it to control the Moffs…Denning and anyone else involved in this last book have failed everyone, except of course, the publishers…..to have a series that has taken out so many key characters just to have the series end in such a way is..foolish, selfish, inconcistant, thoughless, unimaginative…way to ruin a great series…way to destroy the reason for so many reader to turn pages…and then we read about the origins of the Millinium Falcon???!!! What? Oh geeezzzzz. I’m going to be hard pressed to read the rest of INVINCABLE but, since I can’t take it back, I’ll most likely finish it…..reluctanly….It’s obvouse that these forun are not getting read, if they were, they would have learned there lesson with the outragethe of Mara Jade Skywalker. No faith is left for me in these novels. Del Ray…wow… may the world boycot your next series….please…we must teach them a lesson.
Oh yeah…and don’t think that I didn’t get the fact that Lord Caedus did succeed. He saw the future and Allana was well and safe. That’s excaclty what Caedus wanted: to make the galaxy safe for his girl and other like her and I feel he did just that, but, the point that I wanted to make was that we wanted more of Caedus. Caedus as a ruler! For another series. Not to be killed of and then ambiguously have the auther imply that he has don what he was set out to do. Denning and the rest could have put more heart into this series….too much left unsaid…disapointing…very disapointing!
Denning rushed the killing of caedus. They rushed the killing of Anakin in NJO. Why build up such great charecters to kill them premature to say the least. I like Luke from what I gather the rest of you dont feel the same, but I swear if i read one more book where that geezer han solo is flying around saving the day with his solo luck i will scream. thoughts please.
Kenobi went out and lived as a hermit, Yoda went and lived in a swamp; Luke running around being the only one who is really Invincible is getting tiresome. Frankly I’d rather read ancillary stories such as the X-wing series with non force using characters than read another “Luke Skywalker rends the fabric of time and space by loosing a squeaker in the bathtub” story. The only thing he hasn’t done is fly out to the edges of the universe and set it spinning in the opposite direction to turn back time….
I sincerely hope that Lucasbooks gives this license to someone else at the end of this year. Del Rey has proven that they care nothing about their subjects or their readers; only their bottom line. I would have been happier if they had just put “STAR WARS” at the top of the cover and jammed the whole thing full of old Reader’s Digest articles, it couldn’t possibly have been any worse.
Another thing with this book was that there was no emotion. No emotional scene. Jaina wasn’t even crying or anything when she killed her brother. evil or not, its going to break your heart to kill him. But denning had nothing. And why did denning make Caedus really dumb at the end? He wrote him good in the beginning of the novel, then every chapter he was getting worse.
I mean, Caedus dies basically because Jaina snuck up on him and put a lightsaber right through him. Hey denning, you are so smart. that is the best way ever that a “hero” beat a “villian.” How did you come up with that? wow! I mean come on seriously, anything would be better than that. There was no epic battle, no emotion, just tip toe up to someone and stab them in the back. And basically both the twin fights were one-sided with Jaina kicking all the ass. What??? She even cut off his arm in the first fight, then totally whips him in the second. Thank god he had force lightening or he wouldn’t have even scratched her. HE WAS A SITH LORD, not a JEDI PADAWAN. in the back of the book it said one of the greatest sith lords of all time. What a joke. Caedus wasn’t even close. Could have been but writers didn’t want him to be. Guess that’s why he always lost in every book. I mean they couldn’t even have him “win” to make him more powerful.
When he got his arm cut off, I thought that denning might be going for a vader like transformation with at least Caedus living. You guys probably read my luke comments on the other site. So sick of that guy now too. PLease—Write his death ASAP!
I was talking about that with a mate of mine the other day who was reading these. Every time there was a fight he lost; despite his “Sith Battle Meditation” he continually got most of his ships blown apart in one way or another. Every time he fought with the jedi he lost. Either from being made to look the fool (usually with that annoying illusion stuff) or outright got his ass beaten, once by a recently released torture victim who sneaked up on him while he was in the process of strangling the galaxy’s most powerful man. Too bad Luke didn’t “train” with some Mandalorians or he could have ended it right there…
Talking about Jaina training with mandalorians, she didn’t even need too. She used nothing but force stuff, nothing mado, while fighting Caedus. So her training was nothing except for traviss to write in mando’s. Another bad thing about the series. And the writers writing in the Korriban sith just told us that basically Caedus had no shot of winning. The more I reflect on the series it is just poorly written.
Why kill off so many characters, especially good guy ones, if the series was going to play out the way it did and have a “good” ending. You would think it was accumilating because they were going for the “dark” ending, but apparently not. They made Caedus a lackluster sith with a weak, dull apprentice. At least it might have been desent if caedus’ apprentice was evil and full of ambition, lived and been the villian for the next series. Maybe Caedus’ legacy could have lived through the apprentice, if he actually had one that wanted to be a sith.
“If this war has taught us anything, it is that we all lose when we fight. My friends, the time has come to try a new way-” lol, I can’t describe the wave of apathy I felt reading that. The atmosphere for new books is lousy, the pool of characters has been drastically diminished with them killing Jacen, the storyline couldn’t stay together within its own series let alone the rest of the books and after all the shock tactics and melodramatic bull they used to sell this lousy series they cap it off with an ending reminiscent of some of the old one novel stories.
As for training with Mandalorians, I was being facetious. I liked how they wrote in all that crap about how she was going to learn how to beat him by “studying” with Fett then she didn’t do anything with it. Like I said before all of that was nothing more than Karen Traviss’ inability to come up with anything else. They continuously talk about how much more powerful Caedus was than her (a few specific examples in this book as well) yet he doesn’t even put up a decent fight.
When I buy a book I tend to read it twice to make sure I pick up everything, this is the first time I’ve ever had one that I couldn’t even finish. This whole series overall was horribly (or at least hastily) written.
ok there was no caedus early in the book. he shows up aboput a quarter through like page 60 or something. he was well written when he killed isolder, he wasnt an idiot luke was fucking with his head, its the old JEDI MIND TRICK multiplied by about 10.
relax everyone.
lod maloch i see u have returned.i agree that the death was rushed but i think it was well done. to have jacen get stabbed in the beginning of round 2 was the only way to keep things somewhat even between them.and jaina was in shock thats why she wasnt crying she was lost,
i called zekk being a bad guy in upcoming series a week or so ago.
he was captured by krayts sith so they could make him the new sith lightning rod,
Listen to what you said darth chebbis. “getting stabbed in the beginning of round 2 was the only way to keep things somewhat even between them.” That is why the writing was soooooo ridicules. Jaina cannot beat Caedus so lets have her sneak up on a sith lord and stab him. Jaina could never beat him straight up so lets have two stupid circumstances happen. first with Luke “helping” her, and the second with stabbing him. If you think that is good writing then something is wrong with you. Never in an epic clash did something so stupid happen. And you think Caedus wasn’t acting like an idiot in the end? He sees a vision of the white throne and thinks everything is over? What? The moffs to Caedus, “what do we do now? The Anakin Solo is falling apart.” Caedus, “dont woory about anything. I’ve seen a vision and we won.” I guess he thinks that the fight is over and Luke and then will just pack up and leave. Just cuz you see a vision, you still have to do what it takes to achieve it. Denning wrote it like Caedus got relaxed, didn’t care.
yeah, you do the old JEDI MIND TRICK on people who aren’t strong willed. Not on a SITH LORD. You must be a Luke fan. I was a BIG Luke fan up to this series. They just made him to powerful and doing things that were ridicules. How can you be peering into the future every single time Caedus is? Caedus is looking through his own “force window” anyhow, so Luke knows how to look through that same window? It was if Luke was in Caedus head manipulating his visions. It is the only way Luke could do that. And that is soooo far fetched. You know, Yoda should have just went into Sidious’s force visions and just saw what he was going to do and then stopped him before he did it. He could have just told all his Jedi to leave the clones so they wouldn’t die. It just would have been the old jedi mind trick multiplied by about 10.
Isn’t there a site that will tell us what the authers thought of the book or what they were think when they wrote it? I would love to hear/read what the authors of the Legacy of the Force series were into and how the/if they colaborated and how much time they spent talking to eachother. Who made the desision to kill the great Lord Caedus/Jasen Solo, on the the best charactors, with unlimited potential, a perfect charactor to keep up with, a charactor that made many who just started reading these book with Legacy…..who was the bright star in that room that say it would be a good idea. Or why? Do these guy/gals even really care about the Star Wars universe of do they just have a knack for writing sci fi?? It should be a prereck to have them answer questions pertaining to the Star War galaxcy in order to get the job. If you don’t start of an interview with. ” I’ve been watching Star Wars since I was a kidd, I can remember the magic etc….. I would love to read these book in the futur but, what garontee can I have that the writers actually care about what there doing?
I feel the same way. They killed off a great and powerful character in Jacen/Caedus. If Caedus would have lived that would have been great. He could be the villian in the next series. If Caedus never turned bad, Jacen Solo was becoming the perfect and most powerful Jedi knight of the next generation. Sure his tactics were questionable at times, but that was the way of the new “unifying force.” I said this before, Jacen could have took the place of Luke as Grand Jedi Master when he stepped down or was killed. F Jaina. All she is is a great piolit. She can’t even get her life together. Uh–which one–Jag or Zekk? pick one you stupid whore.
A mate of mine just finished reading this book (though he said he skipped the last forty pages) and we were talking about it at work today and I was wondering something about regarding his killing Isolder. Throughout the series Jacen/Caedus does several questionable things: firing on a ship after it’s surrendering, bombing a city, things like that I would just say are the result of brutal warfare (as is mentioned regarding dropping asteroids on Commenor If I remember correctly). However the only outright “morally reprehensible” thing I remember off the top of my head is his murdering his assistant in a rage.
Towards this end I was thinking that while they’d set him up through the story as a shall we say rough leader he really didn’t do much that I would classify as evil which would “justify” the Jedi essentially assassinating him. As I understood it he went to release Isolder so that he could warn his daughter about this “nanokiller,” he refuses believing that Caedus wants to use him to deliver the weapon; so Caedus kills him.
The question I have is why, what difference would it make to Caedus what Isolder believed so long as he warned his daughter about this weapon one way or another (which one would assume he would) which is what Caedus wanted in the first place. Whatever excuse he was planning on using for why he got away would have been the same regardless so whether Isolder blared a warning to everyone in sight or whispered it directly in his daughter’s ear wouldn’t have really mattered. They carry around intragalactic, faster than light communicators in their pockets so how hard would it have been to get a warning out, so why would Isolder even bring it up if he was being let out the front door?
The only reason I can think for this killing in the first place has to do with the fact that the beginning of the section wherein Isolder is killed starts by talking him up as to what a fine man he is and ends with his ship/crew being destroyed because they would refuse to leave him. The point of this being that it is a deliberatly malicious act on Caedus’ part that makes him very much the villain and is quite fresh in the reader’s mind less than twenty pages later when he is killed.
Frankly I think this killing was unnecessary, and only put in as a result of lazy writing resulting in Caedus being much less the bad guy than they wanted him to be.
See how diappointed the fans are!!! Where not ever into writing about the danm outcome anymore. WAY TO GO THERE DEL RAY! Ya’ll helped make a great series a failure. Super job.
I’m not going to repeat everything that has been written above - I agree with it all totally, but if I start typing I don’t think I will be able to stop. Suffice to say that I’m more than a little dissappointed with the money-making exercise that is Legacy.
I’ve got to ask though - did I get sent a copy of ‘Invincible’ that had a section missing? I only ask as I have been looking forward to learning more about Dician and the Sith hiding out on Korriban, but off she went, chasing after ‘Ship’…..and apparently vanished down a black hole along with her story line! WTF?!?!
Or are the Sith going to be the bad guys in the next thrilling series that Luke takes on single-handedly and defeats using only a chopstick and a frown?
What’s he going to need the chopstick for?
Just completly ruined a great series!
Well I sent them a mail to their feedback address detailing why I would not be purchasing their novels in the future, which isn’t satisfying at all but as I can’t do anything else…
Number one on my list is that the publisher should preasure Lucaslicensing to not list comic books amongst the same content canon as the novels. If the comics have a good story then the novelists would use them anyway, much as a backstory in a video game etc. However forcing these Legacy comics on the novels is a foolish idea not because they are bad, but because they don’t necessarily follow the same overall story arc at all and leads to wierdass plot turns that leave the readers in the dust.